I think near-death out-of-body experiences are the most fascinating, enlightening and important events.  I had the privilege to know someone who had such an experience.  His name was Glenn, and he was a close friend of mine who suffered from the same type of cancer that killed famed football player Walter Payton…bile duct cancer. It is a pretty rare form of cancer.  He told me his story after his experience.

The operation to remove the tumor was radical, called the Whipple Procedure. They were successful in removing the small tumor, but my friend nearly didn’t survive the operation itself. He was in intensive care for three weeks, and nearly did not make it.  Immediately after the operation, my friend had complications; there was an infection inside him that would not go away. The doctors brought him back to the operating room to try to find it. 

He was in intense pain; they put him under.  Then…he saw himself on the operating table. He was looking at himself from several feet away, and the doctors seemed very worried about him, as if he would not make it.  Glenn was outside of his body. My friend had been in such intense pain for so long, now he was totally free from it. He was watching what was happening before him as the doctors worked on him, with a sense of detachment. 

Then he noticed something.  He saw two people standing beside him, watching his body on the hospital bed sympathetically. The two were a sad looking adult man and little girl.  Somehow my friend knew that the man was the little girl’s father.  And they were not alive either.  Glenn felt that the two had died together, perhaps in a car accident, many years or even decades ago.  The style of their clothing was not current.  And Glenn had a knowing that the father felt so guilty about causing the death of his daughter that he could not leave his life behind.  And the daughter so loved her father she would not leave his side.  Glenn remarked that time seemed different on the other side and if we pause before going to our final destination, time slips by.

My friend turned and spoke to them out of concern.  He asked them what were they doing here…and told them that they should not be hanging around a hospital.  He told them that they were no longer alive, and they should leave this place and go on to where they were meant to go.  The man listened to Glenn and Glenn seemed to get across to them, because suddenly he had a feeling of peace come over him, like he had done the right thing.  Then the spirits of the father and daughter vanished. 

Yet…he sensed other figures in the distance, dark shapes wandering the hospital corridors.  Other lost souls.  Hospitals are really the most haunted of places. Then Glenn was suddenly outside the hospital.  He said he was walking the hospital grounds with such a feeling of peace.  Then…he heard a Voice.  Not a literal voice, but an impression, telling him “it’s not your time yet…you have to go back”.  He did not want to return to his body, he wanted to stay and be at peace.  Then, then next thing he awakened in terrible agony, back in his body in the hospital room.



Glenn told me this story several times. I asked him afterwards…what was he wearing?  Do spirits wear clothing?  Glenn said he recalled that he seemed to be perfectly dressed, with a freshly pressed shirt (Glenn was always a fashionable guy).  Could it just be a hallucination I asked?  No he said, he had plenty of hallucinations and delirium during his hospital stay, and this experience was utterly different then anything like that.  He said if he had a choice, he would not have returned.  Physically he withered from the consequences of his operations.  He used to be a robust 250-pound man, now he was 140 pounds.  But at the same time, he had attained a renewed inner peace and generosity of spirit.  And we both wondered what was meant by what the Voice said…it’s not your time…yet. 

Three years after his first operation, I learned what was meant by the Voice.  It was his time, but not quite yet.  Three years after his near-death experience his cancer returned.  I recall it was a truly gloomy rainy day when I went to visit him in the hospital.  He was in a coma.  I talked to him wondering if he could hear me, if he knew I was there.  But I knew that from his experience, he no longer feared death.  He had long abandoned any grudges or grievances he had, he became a changed man.  And the next day when he passed away, I knew he would be happy he did not have to return a second time.


  1. Tara Says:

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  2. David Says:

    Tara, thanks for the kind comments. Glenn’s experience had a big impact on me. At his memorial service, I shared this story with Glenn’s brother. His brother had never heard this story. I was amazed. I asked him why Glenn never told him the story, and he said that this was probably a topic that Glenn would not feel comfortable sharing with him. I suppose Glenn’s brother was a skeptic, and this was a sensitive matter with Glen that he did not want belittled. Yet…when I related this story to Glenn’s brother, his brother got comfort from it. Maybe it was just the glimpse, the hope of more then this physical life at the death of a loved one, gave hope to even a determined skeptic.

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  4. David Says:

    Thanks for the kind comment!

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  6. Alain Ternaute Says:

    Thank you for this detailed testimony.
    I have an aunt who had the same experience. By cons, she has not lingered in the hospital. She was guided by a person to cross “the tunnel”. At the end of the tunnel, she saw her mother happy who said “people still need you on earth.”
    She also talked about this state of calm and peace.

  7. David Says:

    Hi Alain,
    It is a nice thought the people who we know now dead will be waiting for us when our turn finally arrives, as it must some day. I expect my good friend Glenn will be there to greet me. A curious thing from these NDEs; it is always the deceased that visits the person at the end of the tunnel of light, never the living. Which is curious, if these were only hallucinations. We expect people to imagine their living friends and relatives would regularly appear in such hallucinations, but that is not the documented evidence.

    Anyone interested in the reality of NDE and OBE should check out a book, The Science of Near Death Experiences by Dr. Jeffrey Long. For a taste you can listen to a podcast here:

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